What if the following happens to one or more of the Unix MLMs?
Can such errors be dealt with properly?
--------------(summary of a few postings on LSTSRV-L)---------------
On 6 May 1993 14:22:20 GMT Jeffrey R Kell said:
> Thu, 6 May 1993 08:18:51 EDT Elliott Parker said:
>>On Wed, 5 May 1993 16:52:15 EDT Neither Rain nor Sleet... said:
>>>By any chance, was user "Stu Nuttall" U9230106 @
>>>He did same thing here last week. Sub, then immediate conceal
>>Ole' Stu did the same trick on four of my lists last week, too.
>Hey! That's the turkey that hit four of my lists (and I've only got maybe
>a dozen). What is this -- is he going for the Guinness Book of World Records
>for Mail Bounces!?!?
On 6 May 1993 13:52:06 GMT Mario Rups said:
>>Stu Nuttall subscribed to about 50 of our lists here ...
>And tried to apply to our one -- thank goodness we've a "private" list: he
>never responded to our request for a profile! And thank you all for the
>warning, he shan't get on our list, now.
>One of my colleagues wonders if the guy is a newbie going hogwild, unaware
>of the trouble he's getting into. Me, I'd say it's deliberate -- I mean,
>really, 50 lists from just one site?! Plus all the others?! The guy's a
On 6 May 1993 14:23:43 GMT Paul Goodwin said:
>Hmmm...on further investigation, I've discovered that this "Stu Nuttall" has
>subbed to about 10 public lists here (that's nearly every publicly available
>list we maintain.)
>I think we may have a problem...any suggested solutions? I think the only
>reason I don't have him on any more lists is that he's served out...
On 6 May 1993 14:33:39 GMT Paul Goodwin said:
>I'm having Stu removed from all lists at my site and served off. He's
>obviously some nut case, and I don't plan to deal with him anymore. He's
>welcome to try calling me if he REALLY wants all that mail... ;)
On 6 May 1993 14:50:31 GMT Dave Gomberg said:
>Stu Nuthall also got bounced mail from PCBUILD. Can someone explain
>what the "serve out" business is? I got the sub and the conceal part
>but the rest of the trick baffles me. Dave
On 6 May 1993 15:33:26 GMT Valdis Kletnieks said:
>On Wed, 5 May 1993 18:46:07 EDT Ira Gold said:
>>Stu Nuttall also hit UMDD (University of Maryland at College Park).
>You guys are all lucky. I'm the one who's got the Listserv 'closest'
>to the UK - guess who's seeing about 700+ bounces a day?
>On a related note, can anybody explain why these are getting dropped
>on me instead of the originating listserv? I'm about ->this<- close to
>stuffing in a 'signoff * (global' for this guy....
On 6 May 1993 14:52:38 GMT Dave Gomberg said:
>On what to do about Stu Nuthall, why not tell his postm we will bar anyone
>from that node from any of our lists? That way it is not our problem
>any more, it is the postmaster's. What do y'all think? Dave
On 6 May 1993 17:25:00 GMT Jim Cocks said:
>In reply to Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG @
>I'll wager that if someone at UCSF abuses their computer privilege you
>don't penalize every one else who happens to have an account! Let's
>not get hysterical. Individual problems are handled individually. I,
>for one, have not seen anything since Monday morning. If it persists
>then contact the postmaster and ask for assistance or a contact point
>to further deal with the individual.
>I think you will find that a polite call for assistance will do far
>more toward resolving such conflicts than any Rambo actions would.
On 6 May 1993 16:22:05 GMT Eric Thomas said:
>This is all fine except that, in the vast majority of cases, the users
>that get served out are non-compliant mailers or gateways. What they
>report is delivery errors for mailing lists. If you just trash them you
>will never know about the problem.
On 6 May 1993 17:26:06 GMT Marty Hoag said:
>On Thu, 6 May 1993 09:36:18 EDT Jim Cocks said:
>>Stu made quite a nuisance of himself here as well!
> In our LISTSERV log from Friday, April 30, I see X-FOR FWDED items from
BITNIC subscribing U9230106 @
UK to our ACADV
>list. This was at 07:44 EDT (6:44 our time). This was followed about five
>minutes later with ADA-LAW, AG-EXP-L, ANN-LOTS, etc. You get the picture -
>they were in alphabetical order.
> I suspect the person just submitted a file with SUB to all the lists
>but it might be interesting to have BITNIC check their logs from around that
>time if they still have them...
> I agree this is very anti-social behaviour but I guess before I would like
>to know the mechanism before I light the fuse... ;-) marty
On 6 May 1993 13:32:21 GMT Sathaye, Shashi said:
>He (?) subscribed to all of our open lists. I was wondering if uk in ukcc
>was confused for a country name..
>I think this must be a program playing with peoples lists.
>What is bad is, I quiet deleted it from all lists and couple of owners
>added the id back.. :-(
> I decided to let them suffer.. A listserv sweeper can take only this much..
On 6 May 1993 13:44:58 GMT POSTMAST @
>I'll be glad to donate 3 feet of used fiber-optic - who is closest NAD
>to East-Anglia ??
>He must have automated his subscriptions to be that much of a nuisance -
>is there such a thing as a "quiet serve ... off ( netwide, permanent ? )
>or is it simpler to crazy-glue his index finger tips into his ears ?
On 6 May 1993 15:40:45 GMT Paul M. Karagianis said:
>If this thread keeps going the way it's been going we'll be ready by
>sundown to throw a public keg-party/lynching. This might just be some
>freshman liberal arts major who did his one computer based homework
>assignment for the year and went home without logging off. As these
>kinds of pranks go it's pretty innocuous. On the other hand it's a
>pretty day on the US east coast and a keg-party/lynching sounds like