Great Circle Associates List-Managers
(May 1993)

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Subject: Re: lists and problem hosts/sites
From: Brent Chapman <brent @ GreatCircle . COM>
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 16:23:20 -0700
To: Gene Rackow <rackow @ mcs . anl . gov>
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 17 May 93 22:35:10 CDT

# Do some list maintainers NOT allow people to subscribe to their lists 
# because of where they are getting their email service?  Basicly have people
# gotten fed up with certain sites that they will just refuse to add people from
# that site to their list because they have a pattern of failure shortly after
# subscription.

I haven't had to make any kind of formal mechanism for that yet.  I
_do_ get real annoyed when I bounce somebody because of returned mail,
they resubscribe, and the response to their resubscription bounces...

# PS:  The biggest offender for this problem is people at
# They have a 100 message limit.

I have exactly one CompuServe subscriber and one CompuServe staff
member (who uses what appears to be a normal UNIX email address on
another machine in the CompuServe.COM domain) among all the dozens of
lists and several thousand subscribers that I run.  They haven't been
a big problem for me.

On the other hand (as some of you have unfortunately experienced
first-hand), I'm _very_ agressive about bouncing people with mail
problems from my lists.  Basicly, if I get bounced email for your
address, you're out of there and onto the "Bounces" list that I've
described here before, banished until you get your problem solved and
resubscribe yourself.

Brent Chapman                                   Great Circle Associates
Brent @
 GreatCircle .
 COM                           1057 West Dana Street
+1 415 962 0841                                 Mountain View, CA  94041

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