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Subject: Re: Help! Compuserve Contact
From: "Henry W. Miller" <henrym @ sacto . mp . usbr . gov>
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 09:54:39 PDT
To: info-labview-request @ pica . army . mil
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . com, henrym @ sacto . mp . usbr . gov

> From:	MX%"info-labview-request @
 pica .
 army .
 mil" 22-MAY-1996 08:08:12.91
> Subj:	Re:  Help! Compuserve Contact

> >Compuserve does the correct thing with bounced mail and sends the messages
> >to the "return-path" field.
> 
> No it does not. return-path means nothing. Bounced mail should ONLY be sent
> to the SMTP envelope address. wow.com (compuserve's new toy online service)
> violates this with apparent impunity. One list I'm on has been hit so often
> by this that the admin now has a cron script running which purges wow.com
> from the list on an hourly (that's right, hourly) basis. Yes, the address
> keeps being re-subscribed (we have a feeling they're gatewaying it to an
> internal newsgroup or somesuch).
> 
> >to the "return-path" field.  For example, my list address is
> >immune @
 weber .
 ucsd .
 edu and the admin address (an alias for my private
> >mailbox) is immune-request @
 weber .
 ucsd .
 edu .
   The retrun-path: line has the
> >immune-request address.  Not all mailers show return-path, which is a shame
> >because it's extremely useful (seems to be dependent on the system settings
> >too since the same mailer on different machines show or not show it).  Make
> >sure this field is set properly on your system.  Your sysop should be the
> >one doing it.
> 
> I'm the "sysop" on this machine and I can tell you that your last statement
> is erroneous. return-path is nonstandard. A properly configured mailer will
> ignore all fields in the message header and bounce failed mail to the
> address in the SMTP envelope. Why should I take the time and energy to hack
> my mailer to accommodate a large, for-cost online provider who can't get it
> together?
> 

	Excuse me - have you checked RFC's 821, 822 & 1123 lately?
Return-Path: IS, repeat IS a standard.

> 		  Tom Coradeschi, Info-LabVIEW List Maintainer
> 		      <info-labview-request @
 pica .
 army .
 mil>
> 	  http://k-whiner.pica.army.mil/info-labview/info-labview.html


-HWM

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