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From: "Michael C. Berch" <mcb>
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 15:19:11 -0700 (PDT)
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At 9:29 PM  -0700 5/21/96, Henry W. Miller wrote:

> 	Well, this is is totally bogus - even lists that generate an:
> "Errots-To:" header?  I've not had a problem with Compuserve flooding my
> lists since I've used a mailer that generates these headers, otherwise
> I'd have serious doubts about even letting someone subscribe from these
> addresses.

	Errors-to: has been deprecated for some time now.  I think it's
only a matter of time before it goes the way of return-reciept-to:,
and I'll be very glad when it's gone.  It's certainly easy enough to
ignore even today.

	The problem is that everyone has written their own SMTP listener
program, because having a custom local mailer that gets fork &
exec'ed by sendmail is just not efficient enough, on top of the fact
that it introduces some unavoidable delay due to local queueing while
processing the message.  However, they all seem to have forgotten
about the envelope sender being the address to which they should send
bounces.  I doubt that will be a problem at AOL, though.

> 	I don't suppose that there is a chance in Hell of getting CIS to
> recant this flawsed decision...

	Not if it's for performance reasons, you won't.  Connect to their
port 25 and see what they identify themselves as.  Do a HELP and see
what info you get there.

	Now, you might convince them to fix their broken code, lest you
and many others do the same thing that a previous poster did --
unsubscribe all CompuServe users from the list because of the
improper behaviour of the mailer.

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