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Subject: Re: Bounce Handler
From: Jonathan Bradshaw <jonathan @ NrgUp . Com>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:41:08 -0500
To: Takashi Tokunaga <taka-tok @ digital-magic . co . jp>, List-Managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <199804211126 . UAA22601 @ yebisu . digital-magic . co . jp>; from Takashi Tokunaga on Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 08:22:57PM +0900
References: <199804171416 . KAA10021 @ volitans . MorningStar . Com> <199804211126 . UAA22601 @ yebisu . digital-magic . co . jp>

If you are using qmail, why are you not using ezmlm+idx which will handle all
the bounces for you?

I switched from SmartList to Qmail+Ezmlm/IDX and was able to forget for the
1200+ mailing list recipients that bounces even happen!

Even if you don't use Ezmlm, the site has a tool for using VERP
with other list management packages.


On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 08:22:57PM +0900, Takashi Tokunaga wrote:
> Hello all list managers,
> I'd like to ask for help handling bounced mails with various MTA.
> I'm maintain mail server (Qmail 1.01 + FreeBSD 2.2.5) which sends about
> 10,000 mail messages per day upon request.  (Not spam, only by request : )
> Of 10,000 messages sent, I usually get 2-3% of error mails due to various
> reasons.  ie. host down, user no longer exist, wrong email addresses....
> The problem I'm having now is how to handle those bounced mails.
> As for qmail, it returns error mails to the sender's Mailbox with messages
> like:
> "This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. blah
> blah "
> So I've created the simple perl script to extract error email addresses and
> automatically remove the error addresses from the sender list.
> Problem I'm having now is since different MTA returns different error
> messages, I can't do the same for outside errors. (ie, user's mail address
> has changed... mailbox is full....).
> Are there any tools/ways to handle bounced mails less painlessly?
> Any pointer/suggestion is very much welcomed.
> Thanx in advance,

 Jonathan Bradshaw (Jonathan @
 NrgUp .
 Com) | Novell 4.x CNE | Ham Call N9OXE
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