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Subject: RE: Finding A Listowner
From: "Andy Finkenstadt" <andyf @ simutronics . com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:24:40 -0500
To: <list-managers @ greatcircle . com>, "'Eric Thomas'" <ERIC @ VM . SE . LSOFT . COM>
Importance: Normal
In-reply-to: <199806181558 . IAA04815 @ honor . greatcircle . com>

How do we account for sf-lovers-request being the one of the first (if not
THE first) mailing list to use -request as the place to send subscription
requests?  I remember joining that list long before 1993, perhaps as early
as 1988 or 1985.  The -request address has been known to be where you talk
to something that helps you, be it animal vegetable or mineral, for at least
that long.

As early as 1990 I personally had software running (with human backup) on
a -request address on a UUCP equipped link with a small little Interactive
Unix (version 2.0.2!) for a small private mailing list of GEnie subscribers.


-----Original Message-----
From:	list-managers-owner @
 GreatCircle .
[mailto:list-managers-owner @
 GreatCircle .
 COM] On Behalf Of Eric Thomas
Sent:	Thursday, June 18, 1998 10:44 AM
To:	list-managers @
 GreatCircle .
 COM; Rich Kulawiec
Subject:	Re: Finding A Listowner

On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:54:26 -0400 Rich Kulawiec <rsk @
 gsp .
 org> said:

>But it's  clearly been understood  for well over  a decade that  one can
>expect to find an agent of *some* kind -- either human or software -- at
>that address,

No, it's not clearly  been understood for well over a  decade at all. For
one thing, over  a decade ago there was exactly  one mailing list manager
available, LISTSERV,  and it did  not sit  at -request. Your  Honour, I'm
afraid the  first use of -request  for the command address  dates back to
somewhere around 93.

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