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Subject: Re: integrated delivery system
From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui @ plaidworks . com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 08:54:53 -0700
To: Rich Kulawiec <rsk @ gsp . org>, Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui @ plaidworks . com>, list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <19980621085316 . A20218 @ gsp . org>
References: <v0401170fb1b23370f05e @ [207 . 167 . 80 . 70]>; from Chuq Von Rospach on Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 08:53:46PM -0700 <19980618144632 . 1503 . qmail @ cr . yp . to>; <v0313031cb1ab2de2e469 @ [206 . 109 . 113 . 133]> <19980618095501 . A13848 @ gsp . org> <19980618144632 . 1503 . qmail @ cr . yp . to> <19980618115024 . A14468 @ gsp . org> <v0401170fb1b23370f05e @ [207 . 167 . 80 . 70]>

At 5:53 AM -0700 6/21/98, Rich Kulawiec wrote:

> Actually, that's *not* my version of reality.  *My* version of reality
> includes a standard which eliminates the differences between the
> command syntax and semantics of majordomo, listserv, listproc etc.
> by codifying them in an RFC.

first, ain't not gonna happen. too much history here now. Second, not
really necessary. Most users simply aren't that heavy users of list
services. Good, easy to use documentation and clear instructions and
making things easy help a LOT more than trying to make everything the
same.

you don't need to make all list servers use the same syntax (and you
couldn't if you wanted to. That needed to be done a decade ago). But
you can make WHICH server is serving systems irrelevant.

> > Rich, have you done any real research with list users in the last
>18 months?
>
> No, I have not.
>
> > When was the last time you did any user studies on this, Rich?
>
> 1991 -- and frankly, it wasn't much a study.

By the way, the users have changed a bit since 1991. Just so you know. (grin)

--
Chuq Von Rospach (Hockey fan? <http://www.plaidworks.com/hockey/>)
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 apple .
 com)
Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:chuqui @
 plaidworks .
 com)
<http://www.plaidworks.com/> + <http://www.lists.apple.com/>


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