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Subject: Re: Automated bounce recognition
From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" <rogerk @ queernet . org>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 19:30:48 -0700
To: J C Lawrence <claw @ kanga . nu>
Cc: list-managers @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <12135 . 1003630699 @ kanga . nu>
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At 07:18 PM 10/20/2001 -0700, J C Lawrence wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 17:49:19 -0700
Roger B A Klorese <Roger> wrote:
> With the number of sites violating RFCs and rejecting
> null-envelope bounce messages, my list owners are not getting
> their lists' bounces.  I am seriously considering putting in a
> return address on them from here on.

There's a simple handling for such: null route their mail.  If/when
they fix their configs, remove the filter.

I'm not surprised you say that, but unlike your site whose mission is to provide lists for an elite who are both in a position to affect their mail servers and consider that part of their job, what we're about is providing communities for as many of the end-users in our sphere of interest as we can. Making their ISPs work properly is between us and their ISP; as far as they're concerned, they can just move their community to Yahoo and forget about our techy fascism if we pull something like that.




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