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Subject: Re: Automated bounce recognition
From: Nick Simicich <njs @ scifi . squawk . com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 00:06:32 -0400
To: "John R Levine" <johnl @ iecc . com>, "Michael C.Berch" <mcb @ postmodern . com>
Cc: "list-managers @ greatcircle . com" <list-managers @ greatcircle . com>
In-reply-to: <Pine . BSI . 4 . 40 . 0110252051450 . 12096-100000 @ tom . iecc . com>
References: <FAAEA837-C989-11D5-99AB-003065F94B0A @ postmodern . com>

At 08:54 PM 2001-10-25 -0400, John R Levine wrote:
> > The "submissions" port, port 587, seems to be the right port for this -
> The problem with this is that if it becomes widely used and known, ISPs
> will probably block that port, too, without thinking about it too much
> (and not realizing that it is not really much of a spam threat).

Port 587 is only supposed to be open to authenticated users via
pop-before-send or SMTP AUTH or the like.  Just leaving it open is a
dreadful idea.  If you're going to set up an open relay, I agree that you
should hide it on a random port, but it'd be better not to do it at all.

I agree - I never said that it should be "open", I listen on it, on one of my systems, but you have to authenticate using esmto AUTH to relay mail using it.

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