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Subject: PERC
From: Beartooth <karhunhammas @ Lserv . com>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:55:20 -0500 (EST)
To: List Managers <List-Managers @ greatcircle . com>
Cc: Jeffrey Goldberg <jeffrey @ goldmark . org>
Reply-to: me at lserv <karhunhammas @ Lserv . com>

	Autocat is a list for library catalogers, with
ca. 3600 subscribers in 46 countries, run on listserv, 
and has been in operation for a good many years. Note
that they're doing it for non-spam reasons, and of course
have it automated; but it may well be where I got the idea.
I've seen it often, because I keep two or three accounts
subscribed, but only one turned on at a time. Forwarded with

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:32:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Judith Hopkins <ulcjh @
 acsu .
 buffalo .
To: Beartooth <karhunhammas @
 Lserv .

  Autocat does ask subscribers to confirm that they want to
continue getting the list.  I believe the interval is every
six months or rather six months from your last activity on the
list.  So, if you have posted to the list or sent a command
to LISTSERV to modify an existing option (set it to NOMAIL or
DIGEST, for example), the clock is reset to start from the
date of that latest activity.  The result is that active
members are never asked to confirm.  The ones who get asked
are those who never (or only rarely) post to the list or who
never change their options.   The confirm mechanism allows
for the removal of those who may have left their jobs and
neglected to unsub, have multiple subscriptions some of which
they have forgotten about, etc.

Judith Hopkins, Listowner of Autocat		
     ulcjh @
 acsu .
 buffalo .
     My home page:
     AUTOCAT home page:

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Beartooth wrote:

> 	An apparently eminent list manager, on a list I've
> just gotten onto, asks about the practice of requiring
> subscribers to confirm at intervals that they want to keep
> getting the list. I *think* Autocat is one of the places
> I've seen it -- it's something I see to and forget -- and if
> so, I'd be glad of any comments from either of you, whether
> or not for attribution. I'll send a blind carbon of my
> message; the list may or may not be one you're familiar
> with, or even on.

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