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Subject: E-mail Lists and Web Integration
From: "Steven Clift" <slc @ publicus . net>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:34:08 -0600
To: <onlinefacilitation @ yahoogroups . com>, <CHI-ANNOUNCEMENTS @ ACM . ORG>, <COMMUNET @ LIST . UVM . EDU>, <communityinformatics @ vancouvercommunity . net>, <com-prac @ yahoogroups . com>, <dg-os-study @ dgroups . orgm>, <eModerators @ yahoogroups . com>, <ITFORUM @ LISTSERV . UGA . EDU>, <list-managers @ greatcircle . com>, <syndication @ yahoogroups . com>, <virtualteams @ yahoogroups . com>, <WWWDEV @ LISTSERV . UNB . CA>
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Reply-to: <clift @ publicus . net>

I have a dream, that someday e-mail lists and the web will walk hand in

In short, I want smarter e-mail lists to connect with dumber web forums
with clean crisp usable interfaces (database drive archives with "skins"
including a e-list to blog version with trackback, etc.), personalized
content tracking across multiple groups, rss headline feeds, and web-based
features like member directories and social networking options that will
work best on the web.  What I don't want is a system that makes e-mail
users second class citizens and prejudices the system toward web-only

Perhaps Mailman 3 might be one of the open source paths we can take?  As
they develop their next set of project requirements I encourage you to
contribute your ideas and technical abilities.

Steven Clift

P.S. http://E-Democracy.Org has been monitoring the potential open source
explorations of DGroups <> for some time and has
dozens of links and text on this subject at:

------- Forwarded message follows -------
From:           	Barry Warsaw <barry @
 python .
To:             	mailman-developers @
 python .
Date sent:      	Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:40:35 -0500
Subject:        	[Mailman-Announce] Mailman 3 development list

I've created a list specifically for discussing Mailman 3 design and
development.  Feel free to subscribe at:

[SLC - MORE: ]

I'd like to keep MM3 discussions off the main mailman-developers list as
much as possible.  The list will be open and will be run with essentially
the same policies as mailman-developers and mailman-users, except that it
will reject posts by non-members.  Sorry, but I think this will help keep
the signal to noise ratio high and it reduces my administrative burden.

I want to give the list a few days to get populated and then I'll start
posting some issues in preparation for the upcoming sprint at Pycon.


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