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Subject: Re: Posting style filters?
From: "Bernie Cosell" <bernie @ fantasyfarm . com>
Organization: Fantasy Farm Fibers
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 11:12:30 -0500
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On 24 Nov 2005 at 14:20, lee wrote:

> Bernie Cosell wrote:
> >What's unfortunate is that the web-based forums are *SO* bad as to be 
> >nearly useless [especially compared with email- or usenet-based ones].
> >  
> >
> hmm I disagree. I use phpBB with Mail2Forum integrated, and I am quite 
> pleased with the results.
> I have also added other mods to phpBB, however, to bring its 'default' 
> performance up to what I consider necessary.

I've used several phpBB-based forums and mostly don't like them: no two 
use the same interface quite [e.g., for two forums that have very similar 
topics, one has "next thread" go backward in time, and on the other it 
goes forward; in my email client *I* can choose whether things are in 
chron or reverse-chron order].  It doesn't keep track of what I've seen 
and what I haven't (other than in a VERY broad-brush, easily screwed up 
way that's basically useless); when it tells me that a thread has a 'new' 
post, that's it: I need to shuffle through the whole thread to figure out 
how far I'd read it last time and then continue on.  It is SLOW.  Even on 
our T3 at work [don't even ASK about my 28.8 dialup at home] the click-
wait-click-wait is a PITA compared with having things ready at hand in my 
email client.  No kill files, no way to highlight threads I'm interested 
in, no way to save copies of interesting messages,  No way to tailor the 
interface to my preferences, etc....

And it is 'pull' instead of push -- and so in order to keep abreast of 
the 35 programs for which the 'support' has moved from a mailing list to 
a web forum, I need to remember to cycle through all 35 websites [with 
the usual very-poor keeping track of what you've already seen, inability 
to kill/ignore threads you're not interested in, each one uses a 
different interface [NONE tailorable to my preferences], 35 more account-
names and passwords to keep track of, etc].

Altoghether, I really can't find anything particularly good about web-
based forums versus the comfort, ease and efficiency of using my email 
client.  About the only thing I've heard positive about web-forums is 
from folk not very proficient with email, and their comments basically 
reduce to 'well, it's better than reading email with outlook express".


Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
mailto:bernie @
 fantasyfarm .
 com     Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--       

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